[ZendTo] Feature Request custom string in subject per DropOff

Sat Jun 20 13:30:22 BST 2020

Hi,

Great new feature, can the autolist be updated to include searching using
this new field?

Regards
Gregg

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:23 PM Jules via ZendTo <zendto at zend.to> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> This feature is now in the latest beta release, 6.02-1 which is available
> from the beta page on the website at
>     https://zend.to/beta
>
> When you create a new drop-off, the Subject line is shown next to the
> "From".
>
>
> *You can edit the Subject how you like. *The "EmailSubjectTag" from
> zendto.conf will still be added onto the start of the Subject before the
> emails are actually sent.
> If you would prefer that the EmailSubjectTag was included in the editable
> bit, so you can remove it, let me know.
>
> This has involved quite a major change in the HTML structure of the form,
> so if you see browsers where it doesn't display perfectly, please do tell
> me!
>
> Thanks!
> Jules.
>
> On 01/05/2019 10:03, Jules Field wrote:
>
>
>
> On 30/04/2019 23:42, Kevin Miller via ZendTo wrote:
>
> I was thinking of something sort of along the lines of what Travis
> McDugald proposed:
>
>   If (isset($messageID)) then $subject = [Zendto] . $messageID . $subject;
> else $subject = [Zendto] . $subject;
>
> although rather than an additional messageID I was envisioning just
> changing the prefix.
>
> I am wary of allowing things like ticket numbers in the [] prefix, as I
> bet some lousy ticketing systems out there will only spot the ticket number
> if it has whitespace after it and not some bracket or other punctuation.
>
>
>
> I.e. I was thinking that [Zendto] would be a variable set in
> preferneces.php which could be customized.  Something like:
>
> ‘Zendto_prefix’      => ‘[Zendto]’,
>
> which folks could simply change to what they wanted or leave it as the
> default.  I didn’t really explain it very clearly.
>
>
>
> We’re probably the outlier, but the powers that be upstream of me decided
> we’d call our system “fileshare” rather than Zendto.  So in my case I’d
> change the prefix itself if such was available.  I can see the use case for
> what Travis, et. al. are proposing as well…
>
> Greg has already answered that one for me. :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Jules.
>
>
>
> ...Kevin
>
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>
> *From:* ZendTo <zendto-bounces at zend.to> <zendto-bounces at zend.to> *On
> Behalf Of *Jules Field via ZendTo
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2019 12:35 AM
> *To:* ZendTo Users <zendto at zend.to> <zendto at zend.to>
> *Cc:* Jules Field <Jules at Zend.To> <Jules at Zend.To>; Kevin Miller
> <kevin.miller at juneau.org> <kevin.miller at juneau.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [ZendTo] [Feature Request custom string in subject per
> DropOff]
>
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> But in the case of a request, as much as possible is pre-filled for the
> customer dropping off files.
> All the other Subject lines generated are hard-coded (apart from
> translations).
>
> If you are thinking of either changing the [ZendTo] prefix to some other
> string, or adding something between the [ZendTo] prefix and the rest of the
> string, where and when is that going to be set?
>
> The "new dropoff" form needs to gain an extra "Message ID" (or whatever)
> box so people can put in their magic string.
>
> Are you saying the "send a request" form needs to gain it too?
> (And presumably if the answer to that is "yes", the "new dropoff" form
> would pre-fill the "Message ID" value from what was given in the request.
> And if that is the case, should the customer doing the dropoff be able to
> change the "Message ID" value at that point? I would suggest not.)
>
> I think we're all thinking about variations on either ticketing systems or
> people with multiple projects, where they need some magic value in the
> Subject line of *every* email message sent by ZendTo so that they can all
> be tracked and filed automatically.
>
> Cheers,
> Jules.
>
> On 29/04/2019 17:53, Kevin Miller via ZendTo wrote:
>
> Unless I’m misunderstand the conundrum, I’d say to let the requester enter
> the subject line, sans prefix, then prepend the system defined prefix at
> upload generation time.  I.e., if I was requesting a dropoff I’d put in “My
> appropriate subject”.  The person that is actually doing the dropoff would
> see that, and probably won’t think twice about it.  Then, when the outgoing
> upload  notification is actually complete, Zendto can prepend the system
> supplied prefix [Zendto] or [Whatever] and send that.  I don’t think folks
> are in the habit of hand coding prefixes, so it’s unlikely one would end up
> with dual prefixes.
>
>
>
> Maybe there’s coding issues with that that make it difficult?  Anyway, my
> tuppence worth…
>
>
>
> ...Kevin
>
> --
>
> Kevin Miller
>
> Network/email Administrator, CBJ MIS Dept.
>
> 155 South Seward Street
>
> Juneau, Alaska 99801
>
> Phone: (907) 586-0242, Fax: (907) 586-4588 Registered Linux User No: 307357
>
>
>
> *From:* ZendTo <zendto-bounces at zend.to> <zendto-bounces at zend.to> *On
> Behalf Of *Jules Field via ZendTo
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 6:19 AM
> *To:* ZendTo Users <zendto at zend.to> <zendto at zend.to>
> *Cc:* Jules Field <Jules at Zend.To> <Jules at Zend.To>
> *Subject:* Re: [ZendTo] [Feature Request custom string in subject per
> DropOff]
>
>
>
> Folks,
>
> I'm having a think about this one.
>
> The idea of the prefix is pretty simple, basically I would give you the
> "[ZendTo]" string (as an initial default value) in a "Subject" box in the
> new drop-off form.
>
> Whatever you end up putting in there gets used instead of [ZendTo] at the
> start of the email subject lines.
>
> However......
>
> If you request a drop-off, you get to supply the whole Subject line for
> the email to the person you want to send you their files.
> Ideally, that same Subject line would be used in all notifications etc
> about that drop-off.
> But they have entered the *whole* Subject line, not just the prefix to it.
> If I use their whole Subject line as a prefix, it's going to look weird.
>
> So what do I do for the Subject prefix, when it was created as a result of
> a request which had the entire Subject line supplied?
> I clearly can't ask the person sending the request to supply 2 Subject
> entries — both the current whole Subject line *and* the prefix to use — as
> that would confuse the hell out of them.
>
> Any ideas please?
>
> Cheers,
> Jules.
>
> On 21/04/2019 14:29, Mailing Lists via ZendTo wrote:
>
> Hi Jules,
>
>
>
> yes it would be enough to allow 20 editable characters.
>
> via Smartphone
>
>
> Am 21.04.2019 um 15:13 schrieb Travis McDugald via ZendTo <zendto at zend.to
> >:
>
> While no one has asked for this yet, I do see it’s usefulness.
>
> I do use custom strings in email subjects for some projects as well.
> Helps with sorting, searching, and filtering.
>
>
>
> Side note: great job on everything Jules, thank you.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2019, at 7:40 AM, Jules via ZendTo <zendto at zend.to> wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> You effectively just want to allow senders to customise the "[ZENDTO]"
> subject line tag in each drop-off, correct?
>
> Does anyone else need to do this too?
>
> Cheers,
> Jules.
>
> On 21/02/2019 2:21 pm, Der PCFreak via ZendTo wrote:
>
> Hi Jules, hi all.
>
> I have a strange request from our ZendTo users. They asked if it would be
> possible to add a custom field when sending a DropOff
> that results in a custom text in all ZendTo email concerning this specific
> DropOff.
>
> Example current:
>
> [ZENDTO] One of the recipients has picked up your drop-off!
>
> Example requested:
>
> [ZENDTO] CUSTOM_STRING One of the recipients has picked up your drop-off!
>
> I asked a little bit about the purpose of their request and they told me
> that project teams sort their email by subject and
> consequently keep the project name (CUSTOM_STRING) in every subject of
> their emails concerning that specific project.
> So later they could sort by project name (CUSTOM_STRING) within Outlook to
> be able to verify when they sent a specific DropOff.
>
> Question:
> Is it possible to implement such a feature?
>
> I know that I could handcraft it but I don't want to make big changes to
> the source and always have to keep track of them when upgrading.
>
> I am currently not on the latest version of ZendTo, so if such a feature
> is maybe already present in the latest version, feel free
> to tell me.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Peter
>
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