[ZendTo] Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: data leakage prevention

Jules Jules at Zend.To
Fri Mar 2 20:22:20 GMT 2012



On 02/03/2012 10:06, patrick.gaikowski at kaufland.com wrote:
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> Hi Jules,
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> this came from Joerg Streibhardt and not from me...
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> "we do not need/want anonymous users to upload files without prior 
> contact. If a file is required, our contact will send out a request to 
> the user."
> So you don't want people who haven't logged in to be able to send 
> files unless they've been sent a "request for files".
>
> The problem is that Joerg Streibhardt interrupts our conversation and 
> my explanation.
>
Please can you and Joerg both state what you want in terms of "people 
who have not logged in" and "people coming from localIPSubnets". I am 
starting to realise that what you and Joerg want are totally different 
things. This may be the cause of some of the confusion.

Can you use different Subject: lines too please? It's really confusing 
to have 2 different people pulling in different directions in the same 
discussion with the same Subject. Try putting "Patrick" or "Joerg" at 
the start of the Subject line, then I know who to ignore in each 
conversation. :)

It seems that one of you wants to eliminate all drop-offs from users who 
have not logged in. But not both of you.

And please stop confusing things by adding comments to each other's 
conversation! :)


Thanks,
Jules.



> But what then do you mean by your text (which I have quoted above)?
> Anonymous users == Users who haven't logged in.
>
> Yes, i mean a user not logged in.
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> On 02/03/2012 09:27, _patrick.gaikowski at kaufland.com_ 
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>     Hi Jules,
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>     you got it!
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>     But if i'm commenting out the lines, it wouldn't be possible from
>     outside to make a Drop-Off without authorization, right?
>     This would not be our aim. 
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> To quote from your earlier mail:
> "we do not need/want anonymous users to upload files without prior 
> contact. If a file is required, our contact will send out a request to 
> the user."
> So you don't want people who haven't logged in to be able to send 
> files unless they've been sent a "request for files".
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>     Your Item 2 would be the better solution, because i can limit it
>     to our company subnets. From outside it should be definitly
>     possible to make an "unauthorized" Drop-Off, because this is the
>     main aim of that solution :-) 
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> But what then do you mean by your text (which I have quoted above)?
> Anonymous users == Users who haven't logged in.
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> I'm totally lost, you seem to be contradicting yourself completely.
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>     Sorry for the change in Subject line, I think you posted from the
>     wrong
>     address by accident.
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>     So you want 2 things:
>     1) Locally connecting users must log in
>     2) No drop-offs for users who aren't logged in.
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>     Item 2 (which is what I think you describe below) you can implement
>     right now yourself by editing /opt/zendto/templates/main_menu.tpl.
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>     What you need to do is remove the "Dropoff" button from the
>     section of
>     page that is displayed when a user has is not authorised. In my
>     latest
>     version of that file, it's lines 58-61. Just comment out those
>     lines and
>     users who have not logged in won't be able to access the "Drop-off"
>     button in the menu. Once you're sure you've got it right, delete
>     those
>     lines instead of commenting them out.
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>     Given that you can do item 2 yourself, do you still need item 1?
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>     Jules.
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>     On 02/03/2012 08:48, _zendto-owner at zend.to_
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>     > Hi Jules,
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>     > we do not need/want anonymous users to upload files without prior
>     > contact. If a file is required, our contact will send out a
>     request to
>     > the user. We try to maintain a single contact address for most
>     > requests to cope with absent contacts.
>     >
>     > Cheers
>     > Jörg
>     >
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>     Jules
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