[ZendTo] Re: Library function

Brian Ott Brian.Ott at oicr.on.ca
Tue Jan 24 21:56:19 GMT 2012 

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 09:46:55PM +0000, Jules wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24/01/2012 21:31, Brian Ott wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 09:18:47PM +0000, Jules wrote:
> >>
> >> On 24/01/2012 17:48, Brian Ott wrote:
> >>> Thanks Jules,
> >>>
> >>> That worked. I've noticed now another issue.
> >>>
> >>> If someone sends me a file and I get the link in the email and go to
> >>> it if I am not currently logged in I cannot download the file. I get
> >>> an error message.
> >> What error message?
> > Please see the image: http://imgur.com/6jssN
> Have you upgraded from an earlier version of ZendTo?
> If so, did you read the notes on the download page on http://zend.to/ 
> about having to update the database schema after upgrading? You are 
> probably missing the relevant table from your database. Run the 2nd 
> "mysql" command given in /opt/zendto/sql/README.MySQL to add the missing 
> tables, then give it another go.
> 
> If you have "humanDownloads => true," in your preferences.php file then 
> it will insist on you passing a captcha test before being allowed to 
> download your files (stops DOS and DDOS attacks on the download page). 
> You can choose to disable this by setting it to false, but I would make 
> sure your database is correct instead.
> >

Thanks! That worked, once I set that to 'FALSE' the download was ok. 

> >
> >>>    This reason is because I'm in the network that is
> >>> forced to login.
> >> There isn't any "network that is forced to login" in ZendTo. In the
> >> network prefixes listed in the preferences.php file, a little login box
> >> is presented on the home page to make it easier for them to login if
> >> they want to. But they are not "forced to login" at all.
> >>> This causes confusion to all our internal users as they receive the
> >>> email, click the link and the file is not accessible.
> >> It should be accessible to anyone! The most recent versions support
> >> another "captcha" at the file download point so that you cannot be
> >> DDOS-ed by millions of botnet machines all trying to download the same
> >> file at the same time. (I've had this done to my own ZendTo site
> >> already, so I guess I'm making an impression on the rip-off market held
> >> by yousendit and the like. :-)
> > We disabled captchas, I agree with the purpose but we had complaints
> > that it was just too hard to read.
> Unfortunately captchas have to be hard to read, or else they are too 
> easy to automate. Most of the captcha libraries/services out there have 
> been cracked and automated, Google's is one of the few that hasn't. If 
> you set "humanDownloads => false," in preferences.php, then it should go 
> straight to the download page when you click on an email link sent by 
> ZendTo, without it trying to display any captcha at all. But if your 
> database is setup correctly then it should all still work.
> >
> >>>    It would be nice
> >>> that before they can go to the page with the file listed they are
> >>> forced to login or ask them to login before the download if they are
> >>> in that network.
> >> No-one ever has to login to download a file, when they get the download
> >> link in an email generated by ZendTo.
> > Ok. I was under the wrong impression because if I login and then click
> > on the link from the email I can download it just fine.
> That's because it knows you are logged in and hence doesn't try to 
> present the captcha page at all. I'll check the code where it tries to 
> present the download captcha and make sure it works in the state where 
> "humanDownloads" is true, but the captchas have been disabled.
> >
> >
> >>>    This would remove that confusion to 'typical' users.
> >> The whole point is that they can send files to anyone, inside or outside
> >> your organisation. ZendTo download links work without you having to
> >> login, that's the point. Otherwise people outside your organisation
> >> wouldn't be able to download files, as they have no login details for
> >> your organisation.
> >>
> > Agreed, its just that some organizations like ours take security and
> > privacy to certain level. We want everyone within our organization to
> > be logged in and tracked. It may sound weird but for auditing purposes
> > its needed.
> In which case surely you need captchas? By switching them off you are 
> allowing any malware or botnet loose on your ZendTo service, and people 
> can automatically post content into your ZendTo service. It's not that 
> hard to automate it once the captchas are removed from the equation. If 
> you care about security and privacy seriously, then you should put the 
> captchas back in or else you have no knowledge at all about who might be 
> using your ZendTo service.
> 
> It does always log the IP address of the computer that downloaded the 
> files, but that's the only information available.
> 
> Jules.
> 
> >
> >> Jules.
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:16:09AM +0000, Jules wrote:
> >>>> Oops! Sorry about that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Go through that file and change every occurrence of
> >>>>        sqlite_escape_string
> >>>> to
> >>>>        $this->database->real_escape_string
> >>>> There should be 5 of them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then you should find it works rather better! :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> This will of course be fixed in the next release.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jules.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18/01/2012 21:09, Brian Ott wrote:
> >>>>> Hey Jules,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did notice this: [Wed Jan 18 16:07:03 2012] [error] [client
> >>>>> 10.10.10.72] PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function
> >>>>> sqlite_escape_string() in /nfs/zendto/zendto_application/lib/MySQL.php
> >>>>> on line 801, referer: https://URL/dropoff.php
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the logs when this happens (I replaced our URL)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 03:37:23PM -0500, Brian Ott wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is anyone using the 'Library' function? I've been having some issues
> >>>>>> with it where as when I user selects to send a file in the library
> >>>>>> after the click 'dropoff' they get a Error 500 page. I'm not sure why
> >>>>>> this is happening. Zendto sees the file just fine and in the database
> >>>>>> its been added as a send but the page errors.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>> Brian Ott
> >>>>>> Unix System Administrator
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ontario Institute for Cancer Research
> >>>>>> MaRS Centre, South Tower
> >>>>>> 101 College Street, Suite 800
> >>>>>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5G 0A3
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Telephone:	647-260-7977
> >>>>>> Email:		brian.ott at oicr.on.ca
> >>>>>> www.oicr.on.ca
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >> Jules
> >>
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> Jules
> 
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Brian Ott
Unix System Administrator

Ontario Institute for Cancer Research
MaRS Centre, South Tower
101 College Street, Suite 800
Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5G 0A3

Telephone:	647-260-7977
Email:		brian.ott at oicr.on.ca
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