[ZendTo] {Disarmed} RE: {Disarmed} {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} {Disarmed} RE: {Disarmed} {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: Re: {Disarmed} RE: Re:ZendTo 3.70 released
Duncan, Brian M.
brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com
Wed Feb 23 19:45:24 GMT 2011
I figured it out.
It is that post_max_size 50000M does not seem to work and it must be
defaulting to some value that equals 889192448 bytes when you have it
set to 50000M.
When I set it to 1000M I was able to upload my 950 meg file and it
completed and the progress bar worked. This is against my PRODUCTION
zendto server that is 64bit Centos.
I then tried setting it to 3000M and it caused other issues with Zendto.
(I could not log in successfully)
This was the error log when it was set to 3000M:
PHP Warning: Unknown: POST Content-Length of 43 bytes exceeds the limit
of -1149239296 bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer:
http://10.9.3.5/?action=login
Some kind of PHP bug?
I finally settled on 2000M, anything higher then post_max_size = 2000M
would cause the login issue. Setting at 50000M must make it default to
the 889192448 value.
I verified this on my production server and on your current CentOS
VMWARE image.
This sounds to me that there is a hard limit at this point with Zendto's
ability to receive files larger then 2 gigs that might not be able to be
worked around.
If someone has any idea how to work around this please let me know.
Now the progress bar works for drop-off's up to 2 gig in size.
Here is the 950 meg drop-off that never worked before:
And finally a drop-off summary after upload completes!
BRIAN M. DUNCAN
Data Security Administrator
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490
brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com / www.kattenlaw.com
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From: zendto-bounces at zend.to [mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] On Behalf
Of Jules
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:39 AM
To: ZendTo Users
Subject: {Disarmed} [ZendTo] {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} {Disarmed} RE:
{Disarmed} {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: Re: {Disarmed} RE: Re:ZendTo
3.70 released
Check your "post_max_size" too. I assume you are using the 64-bit
version of the VM, yes? The 32-bit will never work with big uploads, and
it's possible you may see integer wrapping on the values I put in
php.ini as apparently they shouldn't be bigger than 2^31-1 (signed
32-bit ints) which I only just discovered.
Stupid languages with 32-bit integers! Eek! Perl would never do that to
you :-(
On 23/02/2011 17:30, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:
Could this be from a bug with APC?
I tried changing the APC max limits to megabytes instead of G,
just to see if I can vary the results. No luck yet.
I am running the php.ini included with the CentOS 3.7 VM. I have
not changed anything from the default other then adding what you asked
for in the PHP.ini.
II have a meeting to run to now but will look later and see what
I can find.
Thanks!
Brian
BRIAN M. DUNCAN
Data Security Administrator
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693
p / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490
brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com / www.kattenlaw.com
________________________________
From: zendto-bounces at zend.to [mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] On
Behalf Of Jules
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:24 AM
To: ZendTo Users
Subject: {Disarmed} [ZendTo] {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: Re:
{Disarmed} RE: Re:ZendTo 3.70 released
889192448 in base 10 = 35000000 in
base 16.
So 889192448 = 848 MBytes.
So there is a hard limit set in your
PHP somewhere.
Can you hunt through all the php.ini files looking for likely
settings?
On 23/02/2011 17:16, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:
> The VM I am currently troubleshooting is based on
your CentOS VM that
> is up on the zendto site.
>
> I looked
and the PHP.INI did not contain the apc.max_file_size = 50G,
> so I added
it.
>
> I restarted Apache and right when you click drop off files
on a 950
> meg file I get in the error log:
>
> [Wed Feb 23
11:12:23 2011] [error] [client 10.9.3.4] PHP Warning:
> POST
Content-Length of 973173368 bytes exceeds the limit of 889192448
> bytes
in Unknown on line 0, referer: *MailScanner has detected a
> possible
fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be*
> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
"10.9.3.5"
claiming to be http://10.9.3.5/verify.php
<http://10.9.3.5/verify.php> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud
attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a
possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has
detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be
MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5"
claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
"10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud
attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a
possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5"
claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible
fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has
detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5"
claiming to be <http://10.9.3.5/verify.php>
<http://10.9.3.5/verify.php> BTW,
>
> This is my apc.ini in /etc/php.d (untouched from how it was in
the
VM
> I downloaded)
>
> apc.enabled=1 apc.shm_segments=1
apc.optimization=0 apc.shm_size=32M
> apc.ttl=7200 apc.user_ttl=7200
apc.num_files_hint=1024
> apc.mmap_file_mask=/tmp/apc.XXXXXX
apc.enable_cli=1
> apc.cache_by_default=1 apc.rfc1867=on
apc.max_file_size=50G
>
> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security
Administrator Katten Muchin Rosenman
> LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago,
IL 60661-3693 p / (312) 577-8045
> f / (312) 577-4490 brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com /
www.kattenlaw.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------- *From:* zendto-bounces at zend.to
> [mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] *On
Behalf Of *Jules *Sent:*
> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:07 AM *To:*
ZendTo Users *Subject:*
> [ZendTo] Re: {Disarmed} RE: Re: ZendTo 3.70
released
>
>
>
> On 23/02/2011 16:57, Duncan, Brian
M. wrote:
>>
>> I can't believe I missed this till now after
days of messing with
>> this :)
>>
>> This is the
error in the errlog when uploads fail:
>>
>> [Wed Feb 23
10:47:02 2011] [error] [client 10.9.3.4] PHP Warning:
>> POST
Content-Length of 973173384 bytes exceeds the limit of
>> 889192448
bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer: *MailScanner has
>> detected a
possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be*
>> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
"10.9.3.5"
claiming to be http://10.9.3.5/verify.php
<http://10.9.3.5/verify.php> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud
attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a
possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has
detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be
MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5"
claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
"10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud
attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a
possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5"
claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible
fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5" claiming to be MailScanner has
detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.9.3.5"
claiming to be <http://10.9.3.5/verify.php>
<http://10.9.3.5/verify.php> Can
you
>> tell me how we work around this?
> It's a limit in your
/etc/php.ini or /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
> upload_max_filesize =
>
>>
>> I am wondering if fixing that will also allow the
status bar to
>> work with large uploads.
> I'll be interested to
hear.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten
Muchin Rosenman
>> LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p
/ (312)
>> 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490 brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com
/
>> www.kattenlaw.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------- *From:* zendto-bounces at zend.to
>> [mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] *On
Behalf Of *Duncan, Brian M.
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 23, 2011
10:43 AM *To:* ZendTo Users
>> *Subject:* [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70
released
>>
>> This still happens without using the progress
bar though. (That
>> uploads greater then 850 megabytes zendto does not
accept) Happens
>> in your CentOS and Ubuntu builds of 3.70 and 3.65 I
have now
>> verified it happens in.
>>
>> Does that
still mean it is due to the APC module?
>>
>> I need to try
to figure some work around.
>>
>> I don't need the progress
bar, but I need uploads to work up to 2
>> gig.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten
Muchin Rosenman
>> LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p
/ (312)
>> 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490 brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com
/
>> www.kattenlaw.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------- *From:* zendto-bounces at zend.to
>> [mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] *On
Behalf Of *Jules *Sent:*
>> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:35 AM *To:*
ZendTo Users *Subject:*
>> [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70
released
>>
>> It sits at 100 if it never gets any size
information from the APC
>> module at all. So yes, if it sits at 100 it
will probably fail as
>> the APC module has got screwed up. Not a whole
lot I can do about
>> that really, sorry. If you have any suggestions
though, I'm all
>> ears! :-)
>>
>>
Jules.
>>
>> On 23/02/2011 15:16, Duncan, Brian M.
wrote:
>>> I decided to see if your Ubuntu build has the same
issues.
>>>
>>> It does have the same
issues.
>>>
>>> I downloaded
>>> http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-Ubuntu-x86-3.70-2.zip
and set it
>>> up with bare minimum to test a large
upload.
>>>
>>> 980 meg upload had the same issues, no
status bar updates and the
>>> upload failes to be accepted by
zendto.
>>>
>>> 850 meg uploads and below in size work
fine and the drop-off is
>>> accepted and you get the dropoff
summary.
>>>
>>> Jules I don't know what is going on
here but the progress bar
>>> helps determine if zendto is not going
to accept the upload. I
>>> have found it to be consistent that if
the progress bar displays
>>> 100 the entire upload when the upload
finishes then zendto will
>>> not display the dropoff
summary.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else specifically
that I can do to help narrow
>>> down what is causing this? I was
going to try next downloading
>>> the 3.65-1 VM which still has the
older PHP in it if I recall
>>> correctly and verify
that.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BRIAN
M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten Muchin
>>> Rosenman LLP
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p /
>>> (312) 577-8045
f / (312) 577-4490 brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com
/
>>> www.kattenlaw.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
------------------------- *From:* zendto-bounces at zend.to
>>>
[mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] *On
Behalf Of *Duncan, Brian M.
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2011
12:40 PM *To:* ZendTo Users
>>> *Subject:* [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70
released
>>>
>>> OK I had some time to download the
CentOS VM 3.70-2 image.
>>> http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-CentOS-x86-3.70-2.zip
>>>
>>> I just did minimum configuration after setting it up in
VMware
>>> workstation so I could access it locally through a web
browser to
>>> drop off a large file. (980 meg file
again)
>>>
>>> I installed iptraf on the VM and during
the upload it averaged
>>> around 3700 Kilobytes per second
transferring to the Zendto VM.
>>> (Around 6 minutes on the
upload)
>>>
>>> It still failed to display the drop-off
summary. It resets back
>>> to the adding the recipient #1 and the
file you want to drop off.
>>> Progress bar was stuck at 100 the
whole time, I know you know of
>>> the progress bar bug, just
listing because it is staying constant
>>> at least for
me.
>>>
>>> So it would seem with at least the CentOS
distribution (I have
>>> never tried Ubuntu) that at somewhere
around 850 megs uploads do
>>> not finish successfully. (Not
progress bar on or off dependent
>>> either)
>>>
>>> I have not tried Ubuntu since we have to use Red Hat
based
>>> distributions. So if the issue is related to PHP and
CentOS I am
>>> unable to rule that out at this
point.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BRIAN
M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten Muchin
>>> Rosenman LLP
525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p /
>>> (312) 577-8045
f / (312) 577-4490 brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com
/
>>> www.kattenlaw.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
------------------------- *From:* zendto-bounces at zend.to
>>>
[mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] *On
Behalf Of *Jules *Sent:*
>>> Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:59 AM
*To:* ZendTo Users *Subject:*
>>> [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70
released
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On
22/02/2011 14:43, Duncan, Brian M. wrote:
>>>> Well I took a
chance and renamed my zendto (3.7x) directory and
>>>> put back
in place 3.62 and still found that the 980 meg upload
>>>> still
does not work.
>>> Good. From my point of view, anyway, as it means
I haven't broken
>>> anything that wasn't already
broken.
>>>>
>>>> So I moved back to the
3.7x.
>>>>
>>>> Any idea where I can start to
troubleshoot why uploads that
>>>> large do not finish with
Zendto?
>>> Try different browsers, try a different build of PHP 5.2
(if
>>> you're on CentOS, there is more than one) and make sure you
have
>>> rebuilt the libphp5.so file correctly, and that it matches
the
>>> version of all the other php5 packages you have
installed.
>>>>
>>>> I was going to try and
download a current VMWARE image today
>>>> and set that up
locally on VMware workstation and verify that
>>>> but I do not
know if I will have enough time.
>>> Make sure you follow my
instructions on the website and in the
>>> README that is in the zip
file you will download.
>>>
>>>
Jules.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BRIAN M.
DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten Muchin
>>>> Rosenman
LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p /
>>>> (312)
577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490 brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com
/
>>>> www.kattenlaw.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------- *From:* zendto-bounces at zend.to
>>>>
[mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] *On
Behalf Of *Duncan, Brian
>>>> M. *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22,
2011 8:21 AM *To:* ZendTo
>>>> Users *Subject:* [ZendTo] Re:
ZendTo 3.70 released
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
Jules,
>>>>
>>>> After putting in place the
new_dropoff.tpl from the new version
>>>> I now have the animated
gif working and uploading is back to
>>>>
working.
>>>>
>>>> Problem is that it still does
not accept an upload that is 980
>>>> megabytes. When it finishes
sending it it just resets the
>>>> dropoff page to ask for the
recipient 1 info and the file you
>>>> want to
drop-off.
>>>>
>>>> The 980 megabyte upload took
20 minutes at around 850 Kilobytes
>>>> per second. It is not a
timing parameter issue somewhere
>>>> because I can upload a file
externally that is like 400 meg
>>>> that takes an hour to send
and it works.
>>>>
>>>> It does not go to the
drop-off summary page.
>>>>
>>>> All uploads
below 850 megabytes are working fine still.
>>>>
>>>> I still have my zendto directory from before I started all
the
>>>> progress bar updates. Even with the extensions to MySQL
that I
>>>> ran with the 3.70 upgrade can I go back? I want to
verify if I
>>>> am having an issue with large uploads on the
version I was
>>>> running for the last couple months. I think
that is 3.62. I
>>>> am hoping if I put 3.62 back in place, it
won't care about the
>>>> extensions to the
DB.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security
Administrator Katten Muchin
>>>> Rosenman LLP 525 W. Monroe
Street / Chicago, IL 60661-3693 p /
>>>> (312) 577-8045 f / (312)
577-4490 brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com
/
>>>> www.kattenlaw.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------- *From:* zendto-bounces at zend.to
>>>>
[mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] *On
Behalf Of *Jules *Sent:*
>>>> Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:13 AM
*To:* ZendTo Users
>>>> *Subject:* [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70
released
>>>>
>>>> Have just uploaded 3.70-2 to
the website for you. It contains
>>>> the fixed new_dropoff.tpl
file.
>>>>
>>>> Jules.
>>>>
>>>> On 21/02/2011 21:12, Duncan, Brian M.
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> I updated to the new
version. Not having great results, and
>>>>> turning the
progress bars off results in worse results.
>>>>>
>>>>> With progress bars turned on 'useRealProgressBar' =>
TRUE,
>>>>> uploads work fine up to around 850 megabytes
still.
>>>>>
>>>>> With progress bars
turned on, this is what a 950 meg upload
>>>>> displays after
like 30% of the file is being uploaded: And
>>>>> when the
upload does finish zendto acts like a file was never
>>>>>
sent the progress bar goes away and you are back at the
point
>>>>> that you can select the file you want to drop off.
(The drop
>>>>> off summary page that normally comes up at the
end of an
>>>>> upload, does not come
up)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I turn the progress bar
off in the
>>>>> preferences('useRealProgressBar' =>
FALSE,) I get an error
>>>>> on the page when I try to drop a
file off (it does not
>>>>> upload) and it just stays at the
animated gif for ever.
>>>>>
>>>>> In
firefox, I just get the animated GIF for ever after I
>>>>>
click Drop-off the File(s). (there is no error displayed
>>>>>
anywhere on the browser window) It does not upload.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used the TGZ and overwrote all the files and then
manually
>>>>> updated the configs again from
scratch.
>>>>> http://www.zend.to/files/ZendTo-3.70-1.tgz
>>>>>
>>>>> Any idea on the animated GIF not working now? I am
assuming
>>>>> the current progress bar is not an option since
anything
>>>>> larger then 850 megs does not work on an
upload. Can anyone
>>>>> else confirm they can't get an upload
to work when using the
>>>>> progress
bar?
>>>>>
>>>>>
Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BRIAN M. DUNCAN Data Security Administrator Katten
Muchin
>>>>> Rosenman LLP 525 W. Monroe Street / Chicago, IL
60661-3693 p
>>>>> / (312) 577-8045 f / (312) 577-4490
>>>>> brian.duncan at kattenlaw.com / www.kattenlaw.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: zendto-bounces at zend.to
>>>>>
[mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] On
Behalf Of Jules Sent:
>>>>> Monday, February 21, 2011 9:32 AM
To: ZendTo Users Subject:
>>>>> [ZendTo] Re: ZendTo 3.70
released
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/02/2011 15:23, Duncan,
Brian M. wrote:
>>>>>> So with 3.70 is the progress bars
any different from
>>>>>> previous
versions?
>>>>> I've changed the timings which might well
affect its
>>>>> performance.
>>>>>> Did
you add the feature to turn them on and off?
>>>>>
Yes.
>>>>>> I was just wondering because I have to
troubleshoot the
>>>>>> issue we are having with people not
being able to upload
>>>>>> files larger then 850 megabytes
today, and was thinking I
>>>>>> would start out by
updating to the current version.
>>>>> That wouldn't be a bad
idea. Then you can just abandon the
>>>>> progress bars for
now if you want to.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if
you're using Ubuntu, you can use my shiny new .deb
>>>>>
package! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
Jules.
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: zendto-bounces at zend.to
>>>>>>
[mailto:zendto-bounces at zend.to] On
Behalf Of Jules Sent:
>>>>>> Monday, February 21, 2011 5:04
AM To: ZendTo Users Subject:
>>>>>> [ZendTo] ZendTo 3.70
released
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just
put out a testing release, 3.70. It includes
>>>>>> the
progress bars, with a few updates from the weekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It also includes the new "Send a Request" feature
so you
>>>>>> can easily ask people to send you files using
ZendTo
>>>>>> without them having to jump through hoops to
do it. Perfect
>>>>>> for your customer service
operations!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that
this feature requires a new database table, so if
>>>>>>
you're upgrading with SQLite see
/opt/zendto/sbin/UPGRADE.
>>>>>> If you're upgrading with
MySQL see /opt/zendto/sql.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Julian Field MEng CITP CEng www.Zend.To
>>>>>>
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