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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="GroupWiseMessageBody" id="GroupWiseSection_1540834068000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><span class="GroupwiseReplyHeader">>>> Gray McCord via ZendTo <zendto@zend.to> 10/29/2018 12:46 PM >>><br></span><div><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I think I mentioned this before, but I had this problem when clamd was updated to v100.1 on my Centos7 server. Adding the apache user (in my case “apache” ) to the “virusgroup” group cleared up the problem, which was the clamd daemon being unable to properly access its socket file. <o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">Prior to the v100 versions of clamd, the scanner user and group were the same: “clamscan:clamscan”. With the new version this changed to “clamscan:virusgroup” for some reason and it broke my Zendto. (Thanks to Jules for pointing me to a much more safe and simple solution to a problem I originally overcomplicated! <span style='font-family: "Apple Color Emoji";'>😉</span>)<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">This may not be your problem, but it’s worth a try.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">Good Luck!<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">Gray<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt;'><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Copperplate Gothic Light",sans-serif;'>Gray McCord</span><span style='color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt;'><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><i><span style='color: rgb(227, 108, 10); font-family: "Copperplate Gothic Light",sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;'>Adapt, Mutate, Migrate, or Die</span></i><span style='color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt;'><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style='color: rgb(227, 108, 10); font-family: "Copperplate Gothic Light",sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;'> -C. Darwin</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-image: none;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><b><span style="color: black; font-size: 12pt;">From: </span></b><span style="color: black; font-size: 12pt;">ZendTo <zendto-bounces@zend.to> on behalf of Ken Etter via ZendTo <zendto@zend.to><br><b>Reply-To: </b>ZendTo Users <zendto@zend.to><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, October 29, 2018 at 11:17 AM<br><b>To: </b>Jules Field <jules@zend.to>, ZendTo List <zendto@zend.to><br><b>Cc: </b>Ken Etter <kle@msktd.com><br><b>Subject: </b>{Disarmed} Re: [ZendTo] Zend.to error during drop-off<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540826455000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I started with that because I already had a downloaded copy.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">I just completed another test install and got the same results - error - failed to drop-off files.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;">I'll send the files off list. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">Ken <o:p></o:p></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540826455000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span class="groupwisereplyheader">>>> Jules Field <Jules@Zend.To> 10/29/2018 10:16 AM >>></span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">> Ken,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I only changed the FQDN to set the domain name. As Ubuntu set itself up, I didn't appear to have a domain name set, so "hostname --fqdn" was just giving "kenetter" as it had no domain name. So I set the domain name as per those instructions in order to get a fully-qualified name out of "hostname --fqdn" before starting to install ZendTo.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">If the ZendTo Installer cannot deduce a likely DNS domain name, it tends to make some wrong decisions when setting up the preferences.php and internaldomains.conf files. For a pain-free installation, I tend to set that first, so that at least it has *a* domain name, even if it's not the same one as the website is going to have. Having the output of "hostname --fqdn" contain no dots at all is not a good sign of a "well setup" server. :)<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">That actual hostname and such like is irrelevant to ZendTo. What's important is that the serverRoot in preferences.php matches up with what Apache thinks it's serving it as.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">You can put ZendTo on a server that has lots of other sites on it as well, that's no problem at all.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Do you want to send me (off list) your Apache config for ZendTo, in addition to the preferences.php, zendto.conf and internaldomains.conf files? It's either something odd in there, or else your Ubuntu 16.04.3 system isn't anything like as "vanilla" as you think it is.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Out of interest, why start with 16.04.3? That's not the latest 16.04 media available from Canonical, I had to go and hunt for it to reproduce your steps.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Jules.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">On 29/10/2018 14:06, Ken Etter wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540821722000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Jules,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Something doesn't seem clear here. You mention changing the FQDN of the server. Why should that even be necessary? I run multiple web servers on the same server and the site addresses do not have anything at all to do with the server name or the server FQDN. For ZendTo to work properly does the site address have to match the server FQDN?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><br>Ken<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540821721000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span class="groupwisereplyheader"><span style="background: white;">>>> Jules Field <a href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To"><Jules@Zend.To></a> 10/26/2018 7:26 AM >>></span></span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">> Ken, <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I have just built a ZendTo VM from scratch using the exact same version of Ubuntu you did, and the current production release of ZendTo (as installed by my Installer).<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">It worked absolutely fine for me.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Attached is the PDF log of what I did, so you can read through it.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I didn't have to change the server name, as I had already set the FQDN to the same name in the Ubuntu networking setup (as documented in the PDF).<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">And I didn't touch *anything* after running the Installer, including zendto.conf, preferences.php and the Apache config.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I would be starting to suspect your preferences.php settings. What happens if you check the serverRoot is right, and make sure that Apache config matches. Otherwise just use the preferences.php as the Installer leaves it.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">On a VM with only 1GB, the current production release probably won't be able to encrypt a drop-off. I've reduced the memory requirements for that in the latest betas, but in the mean time you will probably need at least 2GB RAM to be able to use encryption.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Jules.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">On 26/10/2018 09:20, Jules Field wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Ken, <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">This is really odd. I did thoroughly test the Installer on every supported version of every flavour of Linux that I say it works on. I've got dozens of old VMs to prove it. :-/<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I'm downloading 16.04.3 (amd64) right now, and will walk through the same steps as you listed below.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I'll let you know the results as soon as I've built it.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Jules.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">On 25/10/2018 17:57, Ken Etter wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540486322000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Jules,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I just finished setting up a brand new VM and I get the same error message! This makes no sense! Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">* installed Ubuntu 16.04.3 as a basic server<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">* configured networking<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">* installed openssh-server<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">* patched server to 16.04.5<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">* downloaded your installer and ran it<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">used most defaults except I had to specify the smtp server and the address of the site<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">the site address defaulted to <a href="https://server_name">https://server_name</a> and I changed it to <a href="https://transfer.msktd.com">https://transfer.msktd.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">* modified preferences.php and zendto.conf for my settings<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">* reboot<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">* login to site and attempt a drop off and I get the same error as my upgraded site<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">What could possibly be wrong in what I did?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Ken<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540486321000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span class="groupwisereplyheader"><span style="background: white;">>>> Jules Field <a href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To"><Jules@Zend.To></a> 10/25/2018 11:41 AM >>></span></span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">> Edit your /etc/passwd file to set the shell for your Apache user to /bin/bash. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Then "pwconv" so the change takes effect.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Then try this<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">su - apache</span></tt><span style="background: white;"> (or whatever user your Apache is running as) <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">clamdscan /var/zendto/* </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">clamdscan --fdpass /var/zendto/* </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">exit</span></tt><span style="background: white;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">What happened? Did the virus scans both complete successfully?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">If not, and you're running CentOS/RedHat 7, try this and then give the above another try:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">groupmems --group virusgroup --add apache </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">systemctl restart httpd</span></tt><span style="background: white;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I added that extra groupmems command to the Installer a day or two ago when I discovered that RedHat/CentOS had changed their group membership rules in an update.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Any improvement?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Jules.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">P.S. Otherwise, if you can give me remote ssh access I can login myself and take a look for you. I would be interested to see what it is, if it's not any of the above.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">On 25/10/2018 16:22, Ken Etter wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540480867000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Yep, PHP 7.2 is installed. I've run through the installer multiple times now. No change, still get the error.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Ken<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540480866000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span class="groupwisereplyheader"><span style="background: white;">>>> Jules Field <a href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To"><Jules@Zend.To></a> 10/25/2018 11:15 AM >>></span></span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">> Do you have PHP 7.2 installed? <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">My Installer can be run in stages, and those stages can be run independently.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">So you might want to download the Installer, unpack it and wander into it. In what will obviously be the right sub-dir for your OS, you will see the numbered scripts.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;"># cd install.ZendTo/CentOS-RedHat/ </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;"># ls </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">1-devtools.sh 3-clamav.sh 5-httpd-php.sh 7-zendto.sh CentOS6 RHEL7 </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">2-php.sh 4-firewall.sh 6-email.sh 8-selinux.sh RHEL5 </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">#</span></tt><span style="background: white;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">If your web server is already working nicely, then you can probably skip stage 1 (though it won't do any harm).<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">If you haven't installed PHP 7.2 along with things like the sodium extension, then run stage 2 which installs PHP. (Grab a backup copy of your ZendTo installation first, as it may have to remove the *whole* of PHP first which can also remove ZendTo and other PHP applications in the process, before it can install the correct version).<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Stages 3 and 5 shouldn't do any damage, but will add any new settings they need for PHP and so on.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Stage 7 does the actual ZendTo installation itself, which it will do as an upgrade if it finds a zendto RPM already installed. Well worth running.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Stage 8 is only relevant if you are using SELinux, and won't do anything if you're not.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Since version 4, ZendTo no longer needs any form of custom-built PHP or anything like that. So there's no recompiling to be done.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Then if you have a previous preferences.php and/or zendto.conf, you need to use<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">/opt/zendto/bin/upgrade_preferences_php<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">and<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">/opt/zendto/bin/upgrade_zendto_conf<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">to upgrade those files.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Also, if you have done an RPM upgrade from ZendTo 4, you probably have a whole stack of *.rpmnew files in /opt/zendto/templates. You want to move each of those into place so they replace your old *.tpl files.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">As I said, it really is faster/easier/better to build v5 from scratch, its requirements are so different from v4.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Hope that helps,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Jules.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">On 25/10/2018 15:59, Ken Etter wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540479424000_KLE@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">None of that helps. I'm building a new system. This is a production system. I never had problems in the past with upgrading so I went ahead and did it. Bad move. Unless anyone has any other ideas, I will just keep working on setting up the new system. I have to get something running again for my users.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Ken<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span class="groupwisereplyheader"><span style="background: white;">>>> Jules Field via ZendTo <a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to"><zendto@zend.to></a> 10/25/2018 10:53 AM >>></span></span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">> Yes, those directories do need to be writable by whatever user and group your web server is running as. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">If you are using SELinux (most likely if you are using CentOS or RedHat), then I would also advise<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">restorecon -FRv /opt/zendto /var/zendto</span></tt><span style="background: white;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">to reset all the SELinux attributes to the values configured by my Installer.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Also, if you think it might be an SELinux problem, you can switch it into "permissive" mode by<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">setenforce permissive </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">systemctl restart httpd </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">systemctl restart clamd@scan</span></tt><span style="background: white;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">To switch it back to "enforcing", you then do<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">setenforce enforcing </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">systemctl restart httpd </span></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></tt></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><tt><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">systemctl restart clamd@scan</span></tt><span style="background: white;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Jules.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">On 25/10/2018 14:31, Gray McCord via ZendTo wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">I’ve seen that message as well. Check the file permissions on the /opt/zendto directories. Seems like I needed to make them writeable by the apache user, but I could be mistaken.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;">Gray McCord<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><i><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">Adapt, Mutate, Migrate, or Die</span></i><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 9pt;">-C. Darwin</span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-image: none;"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><b><span style="background: white;">From:</span></b><span style="background: white;"> ZendTo <a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to"><zendto-bounces@zend.to></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Etter via ZendTo<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> ZendTo List <a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to"><zendto@zend.to></a><br><b>Cc:</b> Ken Etter <a href="mailto:KLE@msktd.com"><KLE@msktd.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ZendTo] Zend.to error during drop-off<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540473787000_KLE@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">Going back through the mailing list archives, I see that I am having exactly the same problem as Kevin O'Connor in this thread: <a href="https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjul.es%2Fpipermail%2Fzendto%2F2018-June%2F003208.html&data=01%7C01%7CJules%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7Ca244c38af7594fe02f4008d63a8489e3%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C1&sdata=%2FMQVOSO5ZjLwkrQ991eChCvoSfFOLwm3yUcnFSzoRc0%3D&reserved=0"><b><span style="color: red;">MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com" claiming to be</span></b> http://jul.es/pipermail/zendto/2018-June/003208.html</a></span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">Files are uploaded, but I get that error message and the email is not sent.</span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">There is no stated resolution in that thread. Any suggestions or do I have to rebuild a brand new Zend.To server?</span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">Zend.To has been fairly solid for me...a bit of a pain to find this upgrade to be so fragile.</span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">Ken</span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540471110000_KLE@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span class="groupwisereplyheader"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">>>> Ken Etter via ZendTo <<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to">zendto@zend.to</a>> 10/25/2018 8:38 AM >>></span></span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">I am running this on Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS if that matters.</span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;"><br>Ken</span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540470843000_KLE@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span class="groupwisereplyheader"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">>>> Ken Etter via ZendTo <<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to">zendto@zend.to</a>> 10/25/2018 8:36 AM >>></span></span><span style="background: white;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white; font-size: 10pt;">Just upgraded my Zend.To installation from 4.x to 5.15-1. Everything appeared to go ok. But when I click drop-off files, I get an error that states: "Sorry, I failed to drop-off your files! Note that you cannot drop-off directories, only files." I'm not dropping off a directory, just a single file. I tried a couple different file types - same error each time. Any suggestions for fixing this? 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There is a reason why your car has a big windshield and<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">a small rearview mirror. You are supposed to keep your eyes on where<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">you are going, and just occasionally check out where you have been.'<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"> - Willie Jolley<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><a href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Twitter: @JulesFM<o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><pre><span style="background: white;">Jules<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Julian Field MEng CEng CITP MBCS MIEEE MACM<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">with low self-esteem, no sense of humour or irrational religious<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">distribution or copying of this email is not authorised (either<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an irritating social faux<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">pas.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Unless the word absquatulation has been used in its correct context<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">somewhere other than in this warning, it does not have any legal<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">or no grammatical use and may be ignored. No animals were harmed<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">in the transmission of this email, although the kelpie next door<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. Those of you with an<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">so just ignore that Alert Notice from Microsoft.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">However, by pouring a complete circle of salt around yourself and<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">your computer you can ensure that no harm befalls you and your pets.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">and egg whites, whisk and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><a href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Twitter: @JulesFM<o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><pre><span style="background: white;">Jules<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Julian Field MEng CEng CITP MBCS MIEEE MACM<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">'It's very unlikely indeed he will ever recover consciousness, and<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"> if he does he won't be the Julian you knew.'<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"> - A hospital consultant I proved very wrong in 2007 :-)<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><a href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Twitter: @JulesFM<o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><pre><span style="background: white;">Jules<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Julian Field MEng CEng CITP MBCS MIEEE MACM<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">'Is the Holocaust an aberration, or a reflection of who we really are?'<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"> - Holocaust Museum, Berlin<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><a href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Twitter: @JulesFM<o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><pre><span style="background: white;">Jules<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Julian Field MEng CEng CITP MBCS MIEEE MACM<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">'Named must your fear be before banish it you can.' - Yoda<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><a href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Twitter: @JulesFM<o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><pre><span style="background: white;">Jules<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Julian Field MEng CEng CITP MBCS MIEEE MACM<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">with low self-esteem, no sense of humour or irrational religious<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">distribution or copying of this email is not authorised (either<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an irritating social faux<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">pas.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Unless the word absquatulation has been used in its correct context<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">somewhere other than in this warning, it does not have any legal<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">or no grammatical use and may be ignored. No animals were harmed<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">in the transmission of this email, although the kelpie next door<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. Those of you with an<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">so just ignore that Alert Notice from Microsoft.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">However, by pouring a complete circle of salt around yourself and<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">your computer you can ensure that no harm befalls you and your pets.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">and egg whites, whisk and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;"><a href="http://www.Zend.To">www.Zend.To</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style="background: white;">Twitter: @JulesFM<o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;">_______________________________________________ ZendTo mailing list ZendTo@zend.to http://jul.es/mailman/listinfo/zendto <o:p></o:p></div></div></div>
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