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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Jules, you triggered something I found a few weeks ago: a problem with the latest clamd update on my Centos 7 Zendto systems. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>After updating to clamd v100.1, uploads failed in Zendto. The error was that the clamd daemon could not access the needed socket file in /var/run/clamd.scan<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>The problem was that the update apparently changed something that altered the group used by the clamd daemon to "virusgroup" from "clamscan" Changing the group owner of /var/run/clamd.scan to "clamscan" fixed it BUT<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Every time the system rebooted, the /var/run/clamd.scan directory was recreated with the wrong group owner "virusgroup"<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>The fix required editing a template file, /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/clamd.scan.conf, and changing the contents:<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>From:<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>d /run/clamd.scan 0710 clamscan virusgroup<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>To:<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>d /run/clamd.scan 0710 clamscan clamscan<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>That fixes it!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Maybe this is the issue?<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Copperplate Gothic Light",sans-serif;color:black'>Gray McCord</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Copperplate Gothic Light",sans-serif;color:#E36C0A'>Adapt, Mutate, Migrate, or Die</span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Copperplate Gothic Light",sans-serif;color:#E36C0A'> -C. Darwin</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>ZendTo <zendto-bounces@zend.to> on behalf of Jules Field via ZendTo <zendto@zend.to><br><b>Organization: </b>ZendTo<br><b>Reply-To: </b>ZendTo Users <zendto@zend.to><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 10:41 AM<br><b>To: </b>Ken Etter <kle@msktd.com>, ZendTo List <zendto@zend.to><br><b>Cc: </b>Jules Field <Jules@Zend.To><br><b>Subject: </b>{Disarmed} Re: [ZendTo] Zend.to error during drop-off<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Edit your /etc/passwd file to set the shell for your Apache user to /bin/bash.<br>Then "pwconv" so the change takes effect.<br>Then try this<br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> su - apache</span></tt> (or whatever user your Apache is running as)<br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> clamdscan /var/zendto/*</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt> clamdscan --fdpass /var/zendto/*</tt><br><tt> exit</tt></span><br>What happened? Did the virus scans both complete successfully?<br><br>If not, and you're running CentOS/RedHat 7, try this and then give the above another try:<br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> groupmems --group virusgroup --add apache</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><tt> systemctl restart httpd</tt></span><br><br>I added that extra groupmems command to the Installer a day or two ago when I discovered that RedHat/CentOS had changed their group membership rules in an update.<br><br>Any improvement?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Jules.<br><br>P.S. Otherwise, if you can give me remote ssh access I can login myself and take a look for you. I would be interested to see what it is, if it's not any of the above.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 25/10/2018 16:22, Ken Etter wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540480867000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yep, PHP 7.2 is installed. I've run through the installer multiple times now. No change, still get the error.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540480866000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><p class=MsoNormal><span class=groupwisereplyheader>>>> Jules Field <a href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To"><Jules@Zend.To></a> 10/25/2018 11:15 AM >>></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>> Do you have PHP 7.2 installed? <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>My Installer can be run in stages, and those stages can be run independently.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>So you might want to download the Installer, unpack it and wander into it. In what will obviously be the right sub-dir for your OS, you will see the numbered scripts.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'># cd install.ZendTo/CentOS-RedHat/ </span></tt><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></tt></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'># ls </span></tt><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></tt></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>1-devtools.sh 3-clamav.sh 5-httpd-php.sh 7-zendto.sh CentOS6 RHEL7 </span></tt><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></tt></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>2-php.sh 4-firewall.sh 6-email.sh 8-selinux.sh RHEL5 </span></tt><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></tt></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>#</span></tt><span style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>If your web server is already working nicely, then you can probably skip stage 1 (though it won't do any harm).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>If you haven't installed PHP 7.2 along with things like the sodium extension, then run stage 2 which installs PHP. (Grab a backup copy of your ZendTo installation first, as it may have to remove the *whole* of PHP first which can also remove ZendTo and other PHP applications in the process, before it can install the correct version).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Stages 3 and 5 shouldn't do any damage, but will add any new settings they need for PHP and so on.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Stage 7 does the actual ZendTo installation itself, which it will do as an upgrade if it finds a zendto RPM already installed. Well worth running.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Stage 8 is only relevant if you are using SELinux, and won't do anything if you're not.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Since version 4, ZendTo no longer needs any form of custom-built PHP or anything like that. So there's no recompiling to be done.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Then if you have a previous preferences.php and/or zendto.conf, you need to use<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>/opt/zendto/bin/upgrade_preferences_php<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>/opt/zendto/bin/upgrade_zendto_conf<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>to upgrade those files.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Also, if you have done an RPM upgrade from ZendTo 4, you probably have a whole stack of *.rpmnew files in /opt/zendto/templates. You want to move each of those into place so they replace your old *.tpl files.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>As I said, it really is faster/easier/better to build v5 from scratch, its requirements are so different from v4.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Hope that helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Jules.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>On 25/10/2018 15:59, Ken Etter wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540479424000_KLE@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>None of that helps. I'm building a new system. This is a production system. I never had problems in the past with upgrading so I went ahead and did it. Bad move. Unless anyone has any other ideas, I will just keep working on setting up the new system. I have to get something running again for my users.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Ken<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=groupwisereplyheader><span style='background:white'>>>> Jules Field via ZendTo <a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to"><zendto@zend.to></a> 10/25/2018 10:53 AM >>></span></span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>> Yes, those directories do need to be writable by whatever user and group your web server is running as. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>If you are using SELinux (most likely if you are using CentOS or RedHat), then I would also advise<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>restorecon -FRv /opt/zendto /var/zendto</span></tt><span style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>to reset all the SELinux attributes to the values configured by my Installer.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Also, if you think it might be an SELinux problem, you can switch it into "permissive" mode by<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>setenforce permissive </span></tt><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></tt></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>systemctl restart httpd </span></tt><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></tt></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>systemctl restart clamd@scan</span></tt><span style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>To switch it back to "enforcing", you then do<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>setenforce enforcing </span></tt><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></tt></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>systemctl restart httpd </span></tt><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></tt></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>systemctl restart clamd@scan</span></tt><span style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Jules.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>On 25/10/2018 14:31, Gray McCord via ZendTo wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>I’ve seen that message as well. Check the file permissions on the /opt/zendto directories. Seems like I needed to make them writeable by the apache user, but I could be mistaken.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Gray McCord<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>Adapt, Mutate, Migrate, or Die</span></i><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;background:white'>-C. Darwin</span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor;border-image: none'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='background:white'>From:</span></b><span style='background:white'> ZendTo <a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to"><zendto-bounces@zend.to></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Etter via ZendTo<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> ZendTo List <a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to"><zendto@zend.to></a><br><b>Cc:</b> Ken Etter <a href="mailto:KLE@msktd.com"><KLE@msktd.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ZendTo] Zend.to error during drop-off<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540473787000_KLE@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>Going back through the mailing list archives, I see that I am having exactly the same problem as Kevin O'Connor in this thread: <a href="https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjul.es%2Fpipermail%2Fzendto%2F2018-June%2F003208.html&data=01%7C01%7CJules%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7Ca244c38af7594fe02f4008d63a8489e3%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C1&sdata=%2FMQVOSO5ZjLwkrQ991eChCvoSfFOLwm3yUcnFSzoRc0%3D&reserved=0"><b><span style='color:red'>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com" claiming to be</span></b> http://jul.es/pipermail/zendto/2018-June/003208.html</a></span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>Files are uploaded, but I get that error message and the email is not sent.</span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>There is no stated resolution in that thread. Any suggestions or do I have to rebuild a brand new Zend.To server?</span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>Zend.To has been fairly solid for me...a bit of a pain to find this upgrade to be so fragile.</span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>Ken</span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540471110000_KLE@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=groupwisereplyheader><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>>>> Ken Etter via ZendTo <<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to">zendto@zend.to</a>> 10/25/2018 8:38 AM >>></span></span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>I am running this on Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS if that matters.</span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'><br>Ken</span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="GroupWiseSection_1540470843000_KLE@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=groupwisereplyheader><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>>>> Ken Etter via ZendTo <<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to">zendto@zend.to</a>> 10/25/2018 8:36 AM >>></span></span><span style='background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:white'>Just upgraded my Zend.To installation from 4.x to 5.15-1. Everything appeared to go ok. But when I click drop-off files, I get an error that states: "Sorry, I failed to drop-off your files! Note that you cannot drop-off directories, only files." I'm not dropping off a directory, just a single file. I tried a couple different file types - same error each time. Any suggestions for fixing this? 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