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<div class="GroupWiseMessageBody" id="GroupWiseSection_1540495941000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><span class="GroupwiseReplyHeader">>>> Ken Etter via ZendTo <zendto@zend.to> 10/25/2018 3:35 PM >>><br></span><div>Jules,</div><div>I had to get my system working for users, so I can do this now on the upgraded system. But I ran it on the new VM system and no errors. But I still cannot upload.</div><div>Ken</div><div><br></div><div><a href="mailto:www-data@vs8:~$">www-data@vs8:~$</a> clamdscan /var/zendto/*<br>/var/zendto/cache: OK<br>/var/zendto/dropoffs: OK<br>/var/zendto/incoming: OK<br>/var/zendto/library: OK<br>/var/zendto/rrd: OK<br>/var/zendto/templates_c: OK<br>/var/zendto/zendto.log: OK<br>/var/zendto/zendto.sqlite: OK</div><div><br></div><div>----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------<br>Infected files: 0<br>Time: 0.311 sec (0 m 0 s)<br><a href="mailto:www-data@vs8:~$">www-data@vs8:~$</a> clamdscan --fdpass /var/zendto/*<br>/var/zendto/cache: OK<br>/var/zendto/dropoffs: OK<br>/var/zendto/incoming: OK<br>/var/zendto/library: OK<br>/var/zendto/rrd: OK<br>/var/zendto/templates_c: OK<br>/var/zendto/zendto.log: OK<br>/var/zendto/zendto.sqlite: OK</div><div><br></div><div>----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------<br>Infected files: 0<br>Time: 0.032 sec (0 m 0 s)<br><a href="mailto:www-data@vs8:~$">www-data@vs8:~$</a> ls -al /var/zendto<br>total 64<br>drwxrwxr-x 8 root www-data 4096 Oct 25 08:36 .<br>drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Oct 25 07:23 ..<br>drwxr-xr-x 3 www-data www-data 4096 Oct 25 07:49 cache<br>drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Oct 5 07:04 dropoffs<br>drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Oct 5 07:04 incoming<br>drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Oct 5 07:04 library<br>drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Oct 25 07:23 rrd<br>drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Oct 25 08:33 templates_c<br>-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 84 Oct 25 07:49 zendto.log<br>-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 23552 Oct 25 07:49 zendto.sqlite<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br></div>
<div><span class="GroupwiseReplyHeader">>>> Jules Field <Jules@Zend.To> 10/25/2018 12:45 PM >>><br></span><div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">>
Please can you send us the entire output of both commands.
Screenshot or copy-and-paste will do.<div><br></div><div>
</div><div>
Also, send us the entire output of "ls -al /var/zendto".</div><div>
</div><div>
Then I can compare what you've got with my Ubuntu 16.04 test
machine, which I know works.</div><div>
</div><div>
Cheers,</div><div>
Jules.</div><div>
</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/10/2018 16:47, Ken Etter wrote:<br>
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<div>I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.5</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>clamdscan /var/zendto/* <-- this one failed with
permission denied</div>
<div>clamdscan --fdpass /var/zendto/* <-- this one displayed
some warnings, then got to /var/zendto/cache: OK and then
seemed to hang.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ken<br>
</div>
<div><span class="GroupwiseReplyHeader">>>> Jules Field
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To"><Jules@Zend.To></a> 10/25/2018 11:41 AM >>><br>
</span>
<div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">> Edit your
/etc/passwd file to set the shell for your Apache user to
/bin/bash.
<div><br>
</div>
<div> Then "pwconv" so the change takes effect.</div>
<div> Then try this</div>
<tt> su - apache</tt> (or whatever user your Apache is
running as)
<div><br>
</div>
<tt> clamdscan /var/zendto/*</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt> clamdscan --fdpass /var/zendto/*</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt> exit</tt>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> What happened? Did the virus scans both complete
successfully?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> If not, and you're running CentOS/RedHat 7, try this
and then give the above another try:</div>
<tt> groupmems --group virusgroup --add apache</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt> systemctl restart httpd</tt>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> I added that extra groupmems command to the
Installer a day or two ago when I discovered that
RedHat/CentOS had changed their group membership rules
in an update.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Any improvement?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Cheers,</div>
<div> Jules.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> P.S. Otherwise, if you can give me remote ssh access
I can login myself and take a look for you. I would be
interested to see what it is, if it's not any of the
above.</div>
<div> </div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/10/2018 16:22, Ken
Etter wrote:<br>
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<div>Yep, PHP 7.2 is installed. I've run through the
installer multiple times now. No change, still get
the error.</div>
<div>Ken<br>
</div>
<div class="GroupWiseMessageBody" id="GroupWiseSection_1540480866000_kle@msktd.com_1FEF159614D20000B1ED8700B3004500_"><span class="GroupwiseReplyHeader">>>> Jules
Field <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To" moz-do-not-send="true"><Jules@Zend.To></a>
10/25/2018 11:15 AM >>><br>
</span>
<div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">> Do
you have PHP 7.2 installed?
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> My Installer can be run in stages, and
those stages can be run independently.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> So you might want to download the
Installer, unpack it and wander into it. In
what will obviously be the right sub-dir for
your OS, you will see the numbered scripts.</div>
<div> </div>
<tt># cd install.ZendTo/CentOS-RedHat/</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt># ls</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt>1-devtools.sh 3-clamav.sh
5-httpd-php.sh 7-zendto.sh CentOS6 RHEL7</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt>2-php.sh 4-firewall.sh 6-email.sh
8-selinux.sh RHEL5</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt>#</tt>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> If your web server is already working
nicely, then you can probably skip stage 1
(though it won't do any harm).</div>
<div> </div>
<div> If you haven't installed PHP 7.2 along
with things like the sodium extension, then
run stage 2 which installs PHP. (Grab a backup
copy of your ZendTo installation first, as it
may have to remove the *whole* of PHP first
which can also remove ZendTo and other PHP
applications in the process, before it can
install the correct version).</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Stages 3 and 5 shouldn't do any damage,
but will add any new settings they need for
PHP and so on.</div>
<div> Stage 7 does the actual ZendTo
installation itself, which it will do as an
upgrade if it finds a zendto RPM already
installed. Well worth running.</div>
<div> Stage 8 is only relevant if you are using
SELinux, and won't do anything if you're not.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Since version 4, ZendTo no longer needs
any form of custom-built PHP or anything like
that. So there's no recompiling to be done.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Then if you have a previous
preferences.php and/or zendto.conf, you need
to use</div>
<div> /opt/zendto/bin/upgrade_preferences_php</div>
<div> and</div>
<div> /opt/zendto/bin/upgrade_zendto_conf</div>
<div> to upgrade those files.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Also, if you have done an RPM upgrade from
ZendTo 4, you probably have a whole stack of
*.rpmnew files in /opt/zendto/templates. You
want to move each of those into place so they
replace your old *.tpl files.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> As I said, it really is
faster/easier/better to build v5 from scratch,
its requirements are so different from v4.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Hope that helps,</div>
<div> Jules.</div>
<div> </div>
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15:59, Ken Etter wrote:<br>
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<div>None of that helps. I'm building a new
system. This is a production system. I
never had problems in the past with
upgrading so I went ahead and did it. Bad
move. Unless anyone has any other ideas, I
will just keep working on setting up the
new system. I have to get something
running again for my users.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ken<br>
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<div><span class="GroupwiseReplyHeader">>>>
Jules Field via ZendTo <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" moz-do-not-send="true"><zendto@zend.to></a>
10/25/2018 10:53 AM >>><br>
</span>
<div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">> Yes, those
directories do need to be writable by
whatever user and group your web
server is running as.
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> If you are using SELinux (most
likely if you are using CentOS or
RedHat), then I would also advise</div>
<tt> restorecon -FRv /opt/zendto
/var/zendto</tt>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> to reset all the SELinux
attributes to the values configured
by my Installer.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Also, if you think it might be
an SELinux problem, you can switch
it into "permissive" mode by</div>
<tt> setenforce permissive</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt> systemctl restart httpd</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt> systemctl restart clamd@scan</tt>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> To switch it back to
"enforcing", you then do</div>
<tt> setenforce enforcing</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt> systemctl restart httpd</tt><tt>
<div><br>
</div>
</tt><tt> systemctl restart clamd@scan</tt>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Cheers,</div>
<div> Jules.</div>
<div> </div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">I’ve seen
that message as well. Check the
file permissions on the
/opt/zendto directories. Seems
like I needed to make them
writeable by the apache user,
but I could be mistaken.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
ZendTo <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to" moz-do-not-send="true"><zendto-bounces@zend.to></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken
Etter via ZendTo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
October 25, 2018 8:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ZendTo List <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" moz-do-not-send="true"><zendto@zend.to></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ken Etter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:KLE@msktd.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><KLE@msktd.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ZendTo]
Zend.to error during
drop-off<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Going
back through the mailing
list archives, I see that
I am having exactly the
same problem as Kevin
O'Connor in this thread: <a href="https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjul.es%2Fpipermail%2Fzendto%2F2018-June%2F003208.html&data=01%7C01%7CJules%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7Ca244c38af7594fe02f4008d63a8489e3%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C1&sdata=%2FMQVOSO5ZjLwkrQ991eChCvoSfFOLwm3yUcnFSzoRc0%3D&reserved=0" moz-do-not-send="true" shash="r5yfw49nlHb9eNPIvwrlbDgSLMpuuZH4G3/eyBeO/eN5cAHmnql5JgIxULx/JG64jx+vMO0iE1igMcsJ9nHwEyiAgt5T+LfSc12XqmZP6tWaWQ0wgXnQjQDcptGWnjDSe477MOyFGz0d9bgk4+iXLbT4KmH9Ah9UX3mlDdcrEhQ=" originalsrc="http://jul.es/pipermail/zendto/2018-June/003208.html">http://jul.es/pipermail/zendto/2018-June/003208.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Files
are uploaded, but I get
that error message and the
email is not sent.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">There
is no stated resolution in
that thread. Any
suggestions or do I have
to rebuild a brand new
Zend.To server?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Zend.To
has been fairly solid for
me...a bit of a pain to
find this upgrade to be so
fragile.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>
</o:p></span></div>
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Ken Etter via ZendTo
<<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" moz-do-not-send="true">zendto@zend.to</a>>
10/25/2018 8:38 AM
>>></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I
am running this on
Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS if
that matters.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div>
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Ken<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span class="groupwisereplyheader"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">>>>
Ken Etter via ZendTo
<<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" moz-do-not-send="true">zendto@zend.to</a>>
10/25/2018 8:36 AM
>>></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Just
upgraded my Zend.To
installation from 4.x to
5.15-1. Everything
appeared to go ok. But
when I click drop-off
files, I get an error
that states: "Sorry, I
failed to drop-off your
files! Note that you
cannot drop-off
directories, only
files." I'm not dropping
off a directory, just a
single file. I tried a
couple different file
types - same error each
time. Any suggestions
for fixing this? Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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System Administrator<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jules
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Julian Field MEng CEng CITP MBCS MIEEE MACM
'The past is supposed to be a place of reference, not a place of
residence! There is a reason why your car has a big windshield and
a small rearview mirror. You are supposed to keep your eyes on where
you are going, and just occasionally check out where you have been.'
- Willie Jolley
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jules
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Julian Field MEng CEng CITP MBCS MIEEE MACM
'It's very unlikely indeed he will ever recover consciousness, and
if he does he won't be the Julian you knew.'
- A hospital consultant I proved very wrong in 2007 :-)
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jules
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Julian Field MEng CEng CITP MBCS MIEEE MACM
'They went with songs to the battle, they were young.
Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,
They fell with their faces to the foe.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.
They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;
They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
They sleep beyond England's foam.'
- Ode of Remembrance, Laurence Binyon
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