<div dir="ltr">Hi Derek and Zendto community. <div><br></div><div>This is my first time posting to the group. Derek, I had the same ClamAV issue you encountered where it seemed to break out of no-where. I had been following this thread closely and trying the various suggestions such as commenting out or deleting lines in the clamd.conf. Nothing seemed to work for me. </div><div><br></div><div>I strayed from the thread and tried an upgrade via the instructions on:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://zend.to/upgrade.php">http://zend.to/upgrade.php</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>After the upgrade I received errors regarding "libsodium not being installed" - I recalled seeing this in another thread so I followed Jules' recommendation of running the full installer:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://zend.to/downloads.php#installer">http://zend.to/downloads.php#installer</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>
<ol style="margin:0px 1.5em 1.5em 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 3.333em;border:0px;font-size:14.4014px;font-family:Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;list-style-type:decimal;background-color:rgb(235,235,235);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-size:14.4014px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">Become root with "<tt style="font:1em/1.5 "andale mono","lucida console",monospace">su -</tt>" if using CentOS or RedHat, or "<tt style="font:1em/1.5 "andale mono","lucida console",monospace">sudo su -</tt>" if using Ubuntu.</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-size:14.4014px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">Download the installer:<span> </span><tt style="font:1em/1.5 "andale mono","lucida console",monospace"><br>curl -O <a href="http://zend.to/files/install.ZendTo.tgz">http://zend.to/files/install.ZendTo.tgz</a></tt></li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-size:14.4014px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">Unpack it and cd into it:<span> </span><tt style="font:1em/1.5 "andale mono","lucida console",monospace"><br>tar xzvf install.ZendTo.tgz<span> </span><br>cd install.ZendTo</tt></li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-size:14.4014px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">Run the installer:<span> </span><tt style="font:1em/1.5 "andale mono","lucida console",monospace"><br>./install.sh</tt></li></ol>
</div><div>During the install process there were a couple of prompts to look out for to not overwrite the zendto.conf and preferences.php, but other than that t<span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">he installer ran over top of my existing installation. </span> After the installer completed and a reboot of the server I was back to full operation. ClamAV is working great with no errors. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm running Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS. My server is a VM so I was sure to snap it before the upgrade and also backed up my files as per the instructions in
<span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><a href="http://zend.to/upgrade.php">http://zend.to/upgrade.php</a>.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div>Best wishes to you in sorting out your challenges. </div><div><br></div><div>(Thanks to Jules for your support).</div><div><br></div><div>Take care.</div><div><br></div><div>Glenn</div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Pedrosi, Derek G. via ZendTo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" target="_blank">zendto@zend.to</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">The first few lines of my clamd.conf…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">#Automatically Generated by clamav-daemon postinst<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">#To reconfigure clamd run #dpkg-reconfigure clamav-daemon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">#Please read /usr/share/doc/clamav-daemon/<wbr>README.Debian.gz for details<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">FixStaleSocket true<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">LocalSocketGroup clamav<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">LocalSocketMode 666<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"># TemporaryDirectory is not set to its default /tmp here to make overriding<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"># the default with environment variables TMPDIR/TMP/TEMP possible<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">User clamav<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Also…</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/var/run# systemctl status clamav-daemon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">● clamav-daemon.service - Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-<wbr>daemon.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-<wbr>daemon.service.d<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> └─extend.conf<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2018-07-27 06:59:56 EDT; 6h ago<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> Docs: man:clamd(8)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> man:clamd.conf(5)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> <a href="https://www.clamav.net/documents/" target="_blank">https://www.clamav.net/<wbr>documents/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> Process: 7502 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/clamd --foreground=true (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> Process: 7499 ExecStartPre=/bin/chown clamav /run/clamav (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> Process: 7496 ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir /run/clamav (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Main PID: 7502 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Jul 27 06:59:55 ZendTo5 systemd[1]: Starting Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Jul 27 06:59:55 ZendTo5 mkdir[7496]: /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Jul 27 06:59:56 ZendTo5 systemd[1]: Started Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Jul 27 06:59:56 ZendTo5 clamd[7502]: Fri Jul 27 06:59:56 2018 -> !Please define server type (local and/or TCP).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Jul 27 06:59:56 ZendTo5 systemd[1]: clamav-daemon.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Jul 27 06:59:56 ZendTo5 systemd[1]: clamav-daemon.service: Unit entered failed state.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Jul 27 06:59:56 ZendTo5 systemd[1]: clamav-daemon.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I explored Mike’s comments, but ultimately I do not think it is related.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">derek<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Jules Field [mailto:<a href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To" target="_blank">Jules@Zend.To</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 27, 2018 10:10 AM<span class=""><br>
<b>To:</b> Pedrosi, Derek G. <<a href="mailto:pedrosi@millercanfield.com" target="_blank">pedrosi@millercanfield.com</a>>; ZendTo Users <<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" target="_blank">zendto@zend.to</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ZendTo] ClamAV fail<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Have you restarted clamd before trying clamdscan?<span class=""><br>
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Is there any setting for "LocalSocket" in your clamd.conf file?<br>
(There probably doesn't have to be, it will most likely use a default if you don't set one, you can check in your clamd.conf file as if there isn't a setting for it, there will still be a comment describing it and stating what the default value is.)<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 27/07/2018 13:59, Pedrosi, Derek G. wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">Running clamdscan with changes Jules outlined yields the following.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">When I go to that directory, the file /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl does not exist.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">www-data@ZendTo5:~$ clamdscan --verbose /var/zendto/*</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">Infected files: 0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">Total errors: 8</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">Time: 0.001 sec (0 m 0 s)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">www-data@ZendTo5:~$ clamdscan --verbose --fdpass /var/zendto/*</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">/var/zendto/incoming: OK</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">/var/zendto/library: OK</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">Infected files: 0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">Total errors: 6</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">Time: 0.000 sec (0 m 0 s)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Jules Field [<a href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To" target="_blank">mailto:Jules@Zend.To</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 26, 2018 11:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pedrosi, Derek G. <a href="mailto:pedrosi@millercanfield.com" target="_blank"><pedrosi@millercanfield.com></a>; ZendTo Users
<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" target="_blank"><zendto@zend.to></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ZendTo] ClamAV fail</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Derek,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 26/07/2018 16:07, Pedrosi, Derek G. wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Jules,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I’m the only one with ANY access to this system (other than web), and I was on vacation.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif",serif">Hence my suggestion of some*thing*.<br>
Such as your cron daemon, which appears to have been installing updates (they might well have been tagged as security updates, so got automatically installed).<br>
<br>
Having read your lines below, have you tried this bit I suggested in my original reply to you?<br>
<br>
If you want to test it by hand, you need to do this:<br>
Edit the /etc/passwd file and give your apache or www-data user a real shell such as /bin/bash.<br>
"pwconv" (that makes the /etc/shadow file).<br>
"su - apache" (or "su - www-data") to properly become the web server user.<br>
clamdscan /var/zendto/*<br>
clamdscan --fdpass /var/zendto/*<br>
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What does that lot output?<br>
<br>
You not only need to get the location of the LocalSocket correct enough for clamd to start and clamdscan to talk to it, but freshclam.conf needs to know where it is too, or else freshclam can't tell clamd that its signatures have been updated and hence needs
to restart itself.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Jules.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Nevertheless, I’ve comment out the stats lines in clamd.conf and then I received this error.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/opt/zendto/<wbr>config# /usr/bin/clamdscan preferences.php</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Infected files: 0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Total errors: 1</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Time: 0.000 sec (0 m 0 s)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Likewise in ZendTo the log shows…</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">Error: Virus scan of dropped-off files /var/zendto/incoming/phpSAkd0U for dgpedrosi failed with ERROR: Could not connect to clamd on LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl:
No such file or directory ----------- SCAN SUMMARY ----------- Infected files: 0 Total errors: 1 Time: 0.000 sec (0 m 0 s)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Then from clamd.conf I commented out these lines</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">#LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">#FixStaleSocket true</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">And now I can run a command line scan without error:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/opt/zendto/<wbr>config# /usr/bin/clamdscan preferences.php</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Infected files: 0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Total errors: 1</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Time: 0.000 sec (0 m 0 s)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/opt/zendto/<wbr>config#</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">But ZendTo will still not AV scan, from the ZendTo log:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">Error: Virus scan of dropped-off files /var/zendto/incoming/phpcz1Ojf for dgpedrosi failed with ----------- SCAN SUMMARY ----------- Infected files:
0 Total errors: 1 Time: 0.000 sec (0 m 0 s)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Also, I’m running Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS no clamd service to be found:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/opt/zendto/<wbr>config# service --status-all</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] acpid</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] apache-htcacheclean</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] apache2</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] apparmor</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] apport</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] atd</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ - ] bootmisc.sh</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ - ] checkfs.sh</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ - ] checkroot-bootclean.sh</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ - ] checkroot.sh</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ - ] clamav-daemon</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] clamav-freshclam</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] console-setup</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">[ + ] cron</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">But I did reboot the server, and I’m still seeing the issue.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">???</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Jules Field [<a href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To" target="_blank">mailto:Jules@Zend.To</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 26, 2018 10:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pedrosi, Derek G. <a href="mailto:pedrosi@millercanfield.com" target="_blank"><pedrosi@millercanfield.com></a>; ZendTo Users
<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" target="_blank"><zendto@zend.to></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ZendTo] ClamAV fail</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Derek,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 26/07/2018 14:50, Pedrosi, Derek G. wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">This is my production server, and no changes were made;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Ah, the famous "But I didn't change anything" defence. :-) :-)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">it just started throwing the error.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Ah, but changes *were* made. Just possibly not by you. :-)<br>
Someone (or more likely some*thing*) did a "yum upgrade" or an "apt upgrade", and replaced the copy of ClamAV that was running.<br>
You see that file "clamd.conf.ucf-dist" in your "ls -al" output below? That was modified yesterday morning, which is probably shortly before it all stopped working.<br>
<br>
>From your /etc/clamav/clamd.conf file, based on the output from "clamdscan" below, you should remove the lines that start "AllowSupplementaryGroups" and "StatsEnabled". Then restart the clamd service ("service clamd restart" will *probably* do the trick on
almost any Linux variant). Then try that clamdscan command again and see if it gets further.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jules.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Running clamdscan:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/opt/zendto/<wbr>config# /usr/bin/clamdscan --stdout preferences.php</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">WARNING: Ignoring deprecated option AllowSupplementaryGroups at line 11</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Parse error at line 79: Unknown option StatsEnabled</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ERROR: Can't parse clamd configuration file /etc/clamav/clamd.conf</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/opt/zendto/<wbr>config# clamscan --version</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">ClamAV 0.100.1/24784/Thu Jul 26 04:44:34 2018</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/opt/zendto/<wbr>config# nano /etc/clamav/clamd.conf</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">root@ZendTo5:/opt/zendto/<wbr>config# ls /etc/clamav -la</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">total 36</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Jul 26 09:49 .</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">drwxr-xr-x 94 root root 4096 Jul 25 06:06 ..</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2059 Mar 5 10:19 clamd.conf</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1999 Jul 25 06:06 clamd.conf.ucf-dist</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2060 Mar 5 10:19 clamd.conf.zendto</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">-r--r--r-- 1 clamav adm 702 Jul 25 06:06 freshclam.conf</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 29 11:14 onerrorexecute.d</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 29 11:14 onupdateexecute.d</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 29 11:14 virusevent.d</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">derek</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> ZendTo [<a href="mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to" target="_blank">mailto:zendto-bounces@zend.to</a><wbr>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jules Field via ZendTo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pedrosi, Derek G. via ZendTo <a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" target="_blank"><zendto@zend.to></a>; ZendTo Users
<a href="mailto:zendto@zend.to" target="_blank"><zendto@zend.to></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jules Field <a href="mailto:Jules@Zend.To" target="_blank"><Jules@Zend.To></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ZendTo] ClamAV fail</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Derek,<br>
<br>
Testing it with "clamscan" won't help. It's "clamdscan" that has to work, which is a very different beast.<br>
"clamscan" just does it all at once (which is why it takes so long).<br>
"clamdscan" uses the "clamd" process to actually do the scanning, and hence is much faster as there's no startup time while it loads and compiles all the virus signatures.<br>
<br>
If it works with a small text file, but not an archive or docx file, then you've probably run out of disk space in wherever clamd is trying to unpack the archive.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, it is almost always permissions/ownership problems.<br>
You shouldn't do any harm by fetching a new copy of the ZendTo installer and *just* doing the "Setup ClamAV" section.<br>
<br>
If you want to test it by hand, you need to do this:<br>
Edit the /etc/passwd file and give your apache or www-data user a real shell such as /bin/bash.<br>
"pwconv" (that makes the /etc/shadow file).<br>
"su - apache" (or "su - www-data") to properly become the web server user.<br>
clamdscan /var/zendto/*<br>
clamdscan --fdpass /var/zendto/*<br>
<br>
If both of those succeed, then start a big upload going in ZendTo. This will force some data (with the right permissions) into /var/zendto/incoming. While it's running, do "clamdscan /var/zendto/incoming/*" and "clamdscan --fdpass /var/zendto/incoming/*".<br>
<br>
By the time you've done all that lot, you've probably got some errors from ClamAV which will help narrow down the cause.<br>
<br>
When you've fixed it, remember to put your "/etc/passwd" file back so the shell says "/sbin/nologin" and run the "pwconv" command again.<br>
<br>
Hope that helps,<br>
Jules.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 25/07/2018 17:04, Pedrosi, Derek G. via ZendTo wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Suddenly, my drops are no longer being scanned by AV and users were unable to drop files. No changes were made.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">User see this…<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"roboto",serif;color:#162637">Upload Error</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"roboto",serif;color:#162637">The attempt to virus-scan your drop-off failed. Please notify the system administrator.</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve since disable AV scan from the preferences.php (it was 'clamdscan' => '/usr/bin/clamdscan --stdout --fdpass',) and now users can drop files.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The details…<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">From ZendTo log…<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New ,serif",serif">2018-07-25 08:22:31 172.16.0.103 [XXXX]: Error: Virus scan of dropped-off files /var/zendto/incoming/phpLfUrV9 /var/zendto/incoming/phpf6ExDv
for USER failed with </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New ,serif",serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New ,serif",serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">From the /var/log/clamav dir:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">root@ZendTo5:/var/log/clamav# tail freshclam.log</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:02:09 2018 -> ------------------------------<wbr>--------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:44:24 2018 -> Update process terminated</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:44:25 2018 -> ------------------------------<wbr>--------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:44:25 2018 -> freshclam daemon 0.100.1 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:44:25 2018 -> ClamAV update process started at Wed Jul 25 11:44:25 2018</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:44:25 2018 -> main.cvd is up to date (version: 58, sigs: 4566249, f-level: 60, builder: sigmgr)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:44:25 2018 -> daily.cld is up to date (version: 24781, sigs: 2024541, f-level: 63, builder: neo)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:44:25 2018 -> bytecode.cld is up to date (version: 325, sigs: 90, f-level: 63, builder: neo)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 11:44:25 2018 -> ------------------------------<wbr>--------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">root@ZendTo5:/var/log/clamav# tail clamav.log</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 04:47:22 2018 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 04:57:22 2018 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 05:07:22 2018 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 05:17:22 2018 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 05:27:13 2018 -> Reading databases from /var/lib/clamav</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 05:27:27 2018 -> Database correctly reloaded (6584590 signatures)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 05:37:27 2018 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 05:47:27 2018 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 05:57:27 2018 -> SelfCheck: Database status OK.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Wed Jul 25 06:05:55 2018 -> --- Stopped at Wed Jul 25 06:05:55 2018</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now, I can scan files manually via the command line…<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">clamscan --verbose /var/log/</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Known viruses: 6584590</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Engine version: 0.100.1</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Scanned directories: 1</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Scanned files: 43</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Infected files: 0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Data scanned: 8.88 MB</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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